How to Default to Thumbnails in File Upload Xp
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Hi All,Newbie on board....although I could have sworn I had been (or coulda/shoulda been) a member here a looooooong time ago. I havent actually bothered anymore with video editing with all the "free stuff" floating on the "innenertz"
Anyways, I'chiliad kinda stuck...i idea it was going to be "simple"...again with all the video-editing software out there...unfortunately, i cant seem to find whatever that'southward simple enough to use..
so...is there a "Software" that "edits/changes or replaces" the thumbnail picture of an MP4 video? (or an MKV file...but for at present, im only working on MP4s)
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The thumbnail in windows explorer? You tin can so try icaros.
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Yes!Originally Posted by Baldrick
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The thumbnails in Windows Explorer (on a Win7 Dwelling Basic 64-bit Os, and normally using a VLC player as default player)
I'll certainly bank check out this Icaros software (currently i've just installed Video Thumbnail Maker, which creates random thumbnail jpg files --- merely I have no idea all the same how exactly information technology volition replace an existing MP4's video thumbnail)
Thanks! I'll give it a become and give back some feedback here how it went (the least I can do).
PS: a much more newbie question...all the other media files accept thumbnails...mp4. .m4v .mov...but mkv does not become into thumbnails? how come?
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Ok....I somehow...well...kind of figured out how the 2 program works: (pls do correct me if I am wrong or I missed something)1. Icaros software: does one thing = shows "thumbnail" or preview pics for different audio-video files in Win Explorer (it did set my .MKV files not generating any thumbnail/preview pics)
2. Video Thumbnail Maker: generates/culls thumbnail pics from existing video files which can be used as preview/cover pics (it solves my problem of going through video files and taking screenshots or snapshots of scenes one at a time)
My problem nonetheless is how to REPLACE/EDIT an existing thumbnail picture of an MP4 or M4V video file with a film of my ain (JPG file)??? Is at that place a software that does this? Preferably without re-encoding the unabridged video and just...peradventure "inserting" the JPG file into the video file?
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???I don't recollect yous understand what a thumbnail is (comes from)...
Thumbnails are meant to bear witness you a depression-rez preview poster of some signal in a video/flick. It may store it in a split up enshroud file, but it is BASED on the contents of the video/movie file, and so yous can't "replace" a thumbnail with something external to the video/moving picture.
The merely way to get your pic to be used as the thumbnail is to effigy out WHICH frame(s) is shown in the preview and use an NLE to insert a picture show - Every bit VIDEO - into your existing video at that framecount signal. When subsequently saving this, it will of course re-encode your video (which is a bad affair), unless you utilise proper lossless joining methods (e.one thousand. Virtualdub "straight stream copy"). This does NOT include binary joining (even if on the surface, it looks like information technology works).Scott
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Originally Posted by Cornucopia
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Uhmmm...i do know the video thumbnails came from the video file itself....although, I don't really understand (like you lot said) which video frame at some point becomes the "thumbnail" eventually. It just seemed random....i approximate information technology was dependent on how the original video was encoded. I was hoping I could only supercede (preferably) the beginning frame of the video with my own picture file....Hmmmmm....Virtualdub seems the virtually "promising" (and im a bit familiar with using it) but that would mean I may take to re-encode everythingwhich would take time and a lot of processing power (dunno if it'll work on m4vs)
There must be an easier style of doing this? Some kind of "video registry hack" mayhap?
What's an NLE btw?
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Really? Equally the OP assumes, these images may initially originate from inside a video file but, ultimately, they are stored as images somewhere. To suggest that the OP edits the prune in order to insert an paradigm that is and then extracted is, frankly, bizarre.Originally Posted by Cornucopia
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OP should read here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_thumbnail_cache
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Yeah, well MS does MANY things that are baroque. Go figure. Sometimes in order to work with it, you lot have to do bizarre stuff in turn. I read your link and it just confirmed what I understood nearly thumbs...Hither's how it works:
1. Os uses "Thumbnail Handlers" equally intermediaries/plugins which which to generate, manage & display thumbnails.
ii. Virtually, if not all, thumbnail handlers excerpt the paradigm from either the very first frame of video, or the first Xth frame (can sometimes exist set up in the registry tweaks).
3. Yes, it creates those thumbs and puts them into the thumbs.db, ehthumbs.db, or NTFS alternating-information-stream sections of the file itself. These usually exist in either the folder of the media files in question, or in a user's central storage folder (...app data, apathetic apathetic..).
4. Aye, with an appropriately designed app, you lot might could externally change/replace those thumbs with something else, but - if the database either gets corrupted or manually or automatically forced to refresh - ALL non-default thumbs become wiped out and replaced with their default thumbs, thereby UNDOing all your work!Only past actually modifying the video file itself to have advantage of the handler's expectation can one bypass this trouble and always have the handler generate the pollex you want. With the following exceptions:
1. MOV (and by inheritance, MP4) files have a metadata section (aka ATOM) in a header section of the main file itself that holds a "poster". As long equally the Thb Handler can correctly parse & support this metadata, changing that atom volition force the handler to use whatever you've inserted into that element.
2. WMV & MKV both have similar possibilities for encapsulating a thumb/poster, though each is is a different position & metadata name.And so a lot depends upon how SMART your thumbnail handler code is - if you accept the default Windows handler, non much can be done (this has improved as time goes on, from W2k to XP to WMC to Vista to Win7 to Win8). As has been mentioned in previous threads, there is replacement codec/api code that can enhance the # of formats (to include MKV, for example), and those may exist smart enough to allow for better adjustment of the thumbs. You could also create your own, where you can manually control which frame(s) get previewed.
All the same, y'all can't COUNT on that, particularly if you lot use multiple computers, devices, or bandy files with friends, etc.
That is why prepending a clip with the intended preview thumbnail is even so the Merely surefire manner to force the correct thumb. And, yep, it is a LOT of extra work. Most people don't intendance so much well-nigh the thumbs, so you lot would exist in the minority, and that always entails greater try.
BTW, I would recommend that you generate your thumb as a PNG, and so encode the PNG equally an 1-frame I-frame piece of video, using similar parameters to how the existing video is encoded. That manner, you only demand to do a lossless join instead of a full re-encode.
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<edit>NLE = "Non-Linear editor"
Last edited by Cornucopia; 17th May 2013 at 15:50.
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Yep, I was aware of nigh of that Only even your proposed approach would remain constrained by some of the limitations you yourself mention;e.g. YOUR machine correctly extracts your inserted frame to create a thumbnail but when you share the file with a friend THEIR motorcar may not for the reasons you state; e.g. different OS, different codecs (Haali has its ain 'engine' that can be enabled IIRC, etc, etc.).
In summary, I personally would hack the thumbs.db. Proverb that, I wrote Vee-Hive http://www.veehive.x10.mx/ to get away from the limitations of the file system then it'southward not a problem I would ever face!
EDIT: Just did a quick search and, to my surprise, there are no apps that I could come across that facilitate the editing of thumbs.db (and similar) files.
Last edited past VideophileII; 17th May 2013 at 17:36.
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I have a question about this program and since its not plain hosted on this website I'thousand a little hesitant to install it.Originally Posted by budman1
I want to take some h264 videos I take in m2ts files and remux them to mkv and add capacity and a thumbnail.
Ideally I desire to use a movie poster picture for each pic. Will this program exercise this then?
Also note this for apply on a wdtv gen 1 actor and a current model yr sony bluray player.
Will either the gen i or the sony bluray player recognize whatsoever thumbnails? If they won't in that location is no real reason for me to practice this other than remuxing to add together affiliate markers.
Thanks.
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The Google information I looked up http://community.wdc.com/t5/WD-TV-HD/Beware-of-latest-Gen1-firmware-update/td-p/1170
http://world wide web.wdc.com/wdproducts/updates/?family=wdfwdtv_hd talks of the WD Television Gen1 adding comprehend fine art at code level 1.01.75 and a users version version i.02.7 showing cover fine art for MKV. Since I have neither of your players, and it's dependent on the code in whatsoever player whether information technology honors Cover Art, I cannot say for sure.I will tell you that for motion-picture show titles, MetaX goes out on the cyberspace and gathers cover art for y'all which you can use or you can select your own. It converted my MKV and displays on reckoner. The download version lets you try v files then you take to register it. This is not a sales pitch for Meta 10, only that it appears to exercise what you want as shown below.
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Thanks. How much is it fyi? If its non much it might be worth it.Originally Posted past budman1
Besides cheers for looking up the player info.
It sounds promising. In that location should likewise exist other software to do this I just haven't looked hard enough yet.
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WestwardW!!!!
Gee...being the OP of this thread....all I tin say is a Large THANKS for the MetaX suggestion! (Im slightly embarrassed that it took me just this fourth dimension to getting around to mail this)
Having used the "free" and uhmm... an old uhmmm.. "hack" version.....
its withal a "hit and miss" (but generally a hit) every bit far equally successfully getting a jpg thumbnail art to replace the existing one...and brand it stick beyond a variety of video players or PCs or tablets...(it turns out that its gonna be archived and viewed on a HD media histrion)
Simply information technology is quite easy to apply...so I just turned over the programme to the primary user....who cares about thumbnails right? (i promise i don't get requested to brand the thumbnail art to move like a preview)
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Here's a belatedly reply but information technology has good info... I had the same problem with Windows preview thumbnails - I'1000 using ffmpeg command line to convert a bunch of files to MP4, just the resulting file wouldn't have a preview image in Windows Explorer. I'm currently checking/hoping that ffmpeg can exercise this on its own through some switches, but in the concurrently I found a program that can do it... AtomicParsley. You first accept to excerpt a frame from the video (eg with ffmpeg):ffmpeg -ss 0 -i <inputfile.mp4> -vframes i frame.png
and and then you can push it into the MP4 with atomicparsley:atomicparsley <inputfile.mp4> --artwork frame.png --overWrite(Note the capitalization of --overWrite, which outputs to the same file as the input, and the utilize of double-hyphens.) It seems that once you accept set the image, you tin can't but alter it (information technology appears to work but the preview thumbnail doesn't actually change), only yous can remove information technology and and so re-set it again. Removing the artwork:
atomicparsley <inputfile.mp4> --artwork REMOVE_ALL --overWriteHope this helps, if y'all still demand it!
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For MKV files, merge the video file with mkvmerge, insert the pollex that you want named as "encompass.jpg" in the attachment section. Works like a charm, at least with Icaros...
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Cheers. Works bully. And for MP4 files I utilize foobar to adhere cover. Icarus shows it well. But for MP4 fifty-fifty Windows 8.one shows covers in Explorer.Originally Posted past mestredelta
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Hi flmbray.Originally Posted by flmbray
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Your idea is splendid and I'm also looking for similar solutions.
Extract one frame and insert it back as a encompass frame.ffmpeg can handle AVI and excerpt frames easily
Unfortunately, AtomicParsley won't piece of work with AVI files...
Most of my old videos were coded using this container and h264 codec.Do you know how to do the same with AVI files?
Oh, my, yes, y'all helped a lot!Originally Posted by flmbray
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For others mates, does someone know another program that can do that? To elect a frame to transform it as a video cover and can handle AVI files? MetaX could not piece of work with my files...
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Hi, VideophileII.Originally Posted past VideophileII
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Congrats for your very handy Vee-Hive!
Practice yous know how to tweak Registry or installed codecs/splitters to alter the encompass of some video files, equally thumbnails?
I prefer Directory Opus instead of Windows Explorer. Information technology has its ain binder for thumb cache files.Attached is i of its files.
I couldn't recognize the format. It doesn't appear to be an image file.
If y'all, please, may take a look and say some tip, it would be great.Forgot to say: Windows vii Ultimate hither.
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I wanted to do the same affair as OP and institute this thread. Just sharing my solution. What I ended up doing is just going to itunes, adding my movie files, so adding artwork and putting the motion picture affiche or whatsoever image you want to use into place. From there, information technology besides changed the thumbnail image to the poster in windows explorer. Using Itunes 12.three.1.23 on Win10. Hope that helps.
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AVI files exercise non support embedded images.Originally Posted past jairovital
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It is theoretically possible for a program to append an epitome after all the AVI data, like some software does with metadata tags, but that programme would also be required to view the image, so it really wouldn't be worth annihilation outside of its own surroundings. I don't know of any program that does information technology, because software and hardware players, forth with Windows itself, would simply ignore that extraneous data.
If you're using a hardware thespian to view your videos, many of them accept provisions for including thumbnails if the player doesn't generate its own.
With the WDTV media thespian, for instance, you tin include a .jpg image in the aforementioned folder as the video file, and it will be used as the thumbnail for that video. The .jpg file must have the Verbal same filename - including capitalization. Yous can also do the same matter to have thumbnails for .m3u playlists.
Incidentally, you lot could utilize a program such as AviDemux to modify the container blazon. You could have your existing .avi files and create .mp4 files without having to re-encode the video or sound data. It takes just a few seconds to convert an entire motion-picture show from an .avi to an .mp4 container. I'm sure in that location are other programs that will practise the same affair. That just happens to be the one I use.
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Thank y'all for your respond.Pitiful...Originally Posted past awgie
How to practice that? How to suspend an epitome after all the AVI data?Originally Posted by awgie
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Would exist worth to give a attempt?No hardware player here. Justa GomPlayer on Windows 7 SP1.Originally Posted by awgie
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And a big willing to accept correct thumbs for my videos.
I already utilize Avidemux and I know how information technology works. BTW, sometime versions of Avidemux are improve than newer ones. Using 2.5.four.Originally Posted past awgie
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Avidemux creates random pics for thumbnails, extracted from the videos. Impossible (AFAIK) to determine which one will be.Then, any suggestion or thought you lot take, it would be very welcome.
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There is a muddied way to change the thumbnails if you are using whatever of the suggested thumbnail viewers mentioned earlier such every bit Icaros, Media Viewer and others as show at http://winaero.com/weblog/go-thumbnails-for-all-possible-image-and-video-formats-in-explorer-folders/Only create a video with the same speccs from an image of the same size and concatenate them together. This can all be done with FFmpeg as shown below.
Code:
"C:\Users\Bud\Desktop\MEGA_Trimmed_Tabbed_2_2\bin\Debug\ffmpeg" -loop i -f image2 -i "C:\Users\Bud\Desktop\image001.jpg" -c:v libx264 -b 400k -t 4 "C:\Users\Bud\Desktop\image001.MP4"![]()
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concatenate:
files in FileList,txt shown belowCode:
ffmpeg -f concat -i FileList.txt -c copy -scodec copy "C:\Users\Bud\Desktop\clip_Joined_1.mp4"
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Now set your Icaros, etc. to take 99% offset and it will show the epitome at the end of video. Behave in mind Windows doesn't like to change the thumbnail once its stored in its thumbnail binder and then unless you lot delete all thumbnails and let them create them once again or copy the video and so delete the original and rename the re-create, the initial thumbnail will proceed to brandish on many versions of Windows.
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Bang-up Budman1!Rather than a dirty way, I judge is a nice way!Originally Posted past Budman1
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I can create a video with same specs, putting what I want as thumb for that video at the terminate, using my mate Avidemux.Originally Posted by Budman1
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But it'due south good to learn another way with ffmpeg.The big tip here is to, finally, understand what is Icaros first for!Originally Posted past Budman1
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Using your method, with ffmpeg, I had to put outset to 100% to go the right thumbnail. Is it a problem?Many cheers for your aid.
Earlier I go, I must enquire almost that Media Utility interface to run ffmpeg.
What tool/program is that? I looks like a very nice tool.
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@jairovita,Give thanks you lot for the kind words.Rather than a dirty manner, I guess is a nice manner!
I used a very short video to test with a four 2nd video placed at the terminate. If 4 seconds is 1% and the movie is longer than 400 seconds (6 minutes and 40 seconds), you would need 100% first. By the aforementioned logic, the iv second video could be shortened if using 100% offset.The big tip here is to, finally, sympathise what is Icaros offset for!
Using your method, with ffmpeg, I had to put offset to 100% to get the right thumbnail. Is it a problem?That is a program I wrote that does many, many of the things people ask for on a recurring basis and instead of looking up the sequence, script, batch, etc. each time, I test information technology out with this programme to make sure information technology works and and then post the results showing it does work. It does what the tabs indicate: Edit video characteristics, add/excerpt subtitles, add together/blur logos, create video in video, alter audio/video delays, show histogram in many ways(Levels, colour, Luma, Sound levels), notice key frames(list them), create quality GIFS, create videos from a unmarried epitome or multiple images with or without transitions betwixt images and much more.Earlier I go, I must inquire well-nigh that Media Utility interface to run ffmpeg.
What tool/plan is that? I looks similar a very nice tool.It even allows you to alter the Windows date/ time or the Encoded date/fourth dimension from each other or do information technology manually. It has a tab that explains where this is stored in MP4 type videos if yous wish to use a hex editor and do it manually.
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The player fashion ever shows data such as frame number and I just added type to lower center position in Xanthous:
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You lot can also change the script in the pseudo DOS Window if you are familiar with FFmpeg earlier exceution as you go more familiar with information technology or run it as is for 'canned' editing.
It does everything I demand to practice and the above mail did everything I explained except take the paradigm flick. It is made for using ffmpeg, avisynth, convert, Potplayer(Others with work if they play AVS files) and others, all of which I asked the creators to include and received permission since I do not compile them into my program but only telephone call them as needed. In this way I can use the best of the best utilities and programs and change if needed.
Thats the skilful news... the bad news (for me at least) is I posted it here for 30 days and asked for suggestions and notice of failures or improvements and received 0 (Null) replies so I causeless my lack of programming skills made it worthless and removed it. five more people have asked privately to download it and I sent them links with a promise to let me know how it worked. I'yard assuming it worked for them since they as well never replied, e'er.
Now I just use it for a speedier answer and to demonstrate that the script, batch files, or technique DOES work and to make information technology easy to empathize a correlation between a script in ffmpeg and what it relates to:
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Glad it works for you.
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It seems like only wonderful!Originally Posted by Budman1
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All I need in merely i unique tool!
Splendid!I would love to write a plan to handle frames just to make video editing more than easier when playing with AvsPmod.
Because the well-nigh deportment I accept is to trim frames and apply SelectEvery to accelerate speed.
AvsPmod previewer shows only concluding result.
Always, I accept to work with Virtualdub at side to read the existent frame number to trim the next part.I take little skills with Delphi, but no time at this moment to dedicate to learn more about it.
But I know that what I'm trying to do is not so difficult.Never mind.
I'm very disappointed to know that.Originally Posted by Budman1
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It'southward a lack of respect, to say little, I mean, well-nigh the people that didn't replyed.I'd love to test and make comments about your plan, if you hold to ship it to me, may be via PM.
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Budman1Take a look at this thread.
I began to write a plan, but I gave upward because too many other important things happend and claimed my time.
But I'd like to go information technology dorsum and improve what I already washed.Experience free to give suggestions.
I already downloaded all xvi videoclips. If you lot want and don't know how to grab them, I may send for you.
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Lamentable for not responding for six weeks. I didn't run across your respond until just now.Originally Posted by jairovital
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I concur nigh quondam versions of AviDemux being amend. I use 2.5.6 personally. Version 2.six was completely overhauled and doesn't even work the aforementioned equally 2.5. At the very to the lowest degree, they should have chosen it version 3.0 - or fifty-fifty better, merely given it a whole new name. I meet they just released 2.half-dozen.sixteen recently, but I have absolutely no want to even try it.
AviDemux does not create thumbnails at all - information technology just processes the video. Windows generates the thumbnails, and as you say - it's anyone'south judge how it chooses which frame to use.
But if y'all use AviDemux to change your video from an .avi container to a .mp4 container as I mentioned in my last mail, and then you can utilise AtomicParsley to embed a thumbnail of your choosing. I also come across there's a new GUI for editing tags and cover art on .mp4 files, only I haven't tried information technology out. It'south chosen Baka Tagger.
Do or do not. At that place is no "try." - Yoda
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Never mind.Originally Posted past awgie
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And a Happy New year's day, mate!Splendid Baka Tagger!Originally Posted past awgie
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Wonderful suggestion!
All problems had gone!
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Source: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/355761-Video-Thumbnails-How-to-Edit
The thumbnails in Windows Explorer (on a Win7 Dwelling Basic 64-bit Os, and normally using a VLC player as default player)
which would take time and a lot of processing power (dunno if it'll work on m4vs)
W!!!!
its withal a "hit and miss" (but generally a hit) every bit far equally successfully getting a jpg thumbnail art to replace the existing one...and brand it stick beyond a variety of video players or PCs or tablets...(it turns out that its gonna be archived and viewed on a HD media histrion)
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